I betcha that half the people attending 2019 are PIMO and looking for the right time to make an exit. Many of those PIMO are meeting other PIMO and it's a vicious cycle that spells DOOM for this bull shitting cult.
Brokeback Watchtower
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Jehovahs Witness n Retention rates !!! Check this out.
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara ina study of religious retention rates–that is, what percentage of people raised in a particular church or religion stay with it when they are grown–is quite interesting.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2012/07/religious-retention-rates/.
jdubs have alittle over 36%.
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Wiki On Watchtower's Unfullfilled Predictions
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/watch_tower_society_unfulfilled_predictions.
background[edit].
since its formation in the 1870s, the watch tower bible and tract society has claimed that god has chosen the organization from among the churches to fill a special role in the consummation of prophetic history.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watch_Tower_Society_unfulfilled_predictions
Background[edit]
Since its formation in the 1870s, the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society has claimed that God has chosen the organization from among the churches to fill a special role in the consummation of prophetic history. Charles Taze Russell, a prolific writer and founder of the Bible Student movement, viewed himself as a "mouthpiece" of God and later as the embodiment of the "faithful and wise servant" of the parable of Matthew 24:45-47.[3] The Watch Tower Society is now the legal and administrative arm of Jehovah's Witnesses. Its representatives assert that they have been given insight into the true meaning of the Bible and the unique ability to discern the signs of Christ's second coming.[4]
The group's early ideology centered on the "Divine Plan of Salvation", a biblically derived outline of humanity's history and destiny, which was believed to be open to fuller understanding in the "last days". The creed incorporated Adam's fall and the entry of sin, evil and death into the world. God was believed to be permitting the world's affairs to run their ruinous course before he implemented his plan to free humanity from evil, suffering and death by means of the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ and the later establishment of God's kingdom on earth after his Second Coming.[5]
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Jehovahs Witness n Retention rates !!! Check this out.
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara ina study of religious retention rates–that is, what percentage of people raised in a particular church or religion stay with it when they are grown–is quite interesting.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2012/07/religious-retention-rates/.
jdubs have alittle over 36%.
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Brokeback Watchtower
It should be expected that retention rate is so low. Their bread and butter is capitalizing on different dates for the end of the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watch_Tower_Society_unfulfilled_predictions
1878: End of the harvest[edit]
In 1876 Russell adopted the belief promulgated by some Adventist preachers that Jesus' parousia, or presence, had begun in 1874 and that the gathering of the little flock preliminary to the grand climax was already in progress. Using a form of parallel dispensations that incorporated "types" and "antitypes"—historical situations that prefigured corresponding situations later in time[9]—he calculated the harvest would extend only to 1878, at which time the gathered saints would be translated into spirit form.[10][2] The year would also bring the beginning of the "exercise of power" of God's kingdom, with evidence that God's favor was returning to the Jews.[11]
The failure of Russell's prediction did not significantly alter the movement's short-term, date-focused orientation. In early 1881 Russell asserted that 1878 had, indeed, been a milestone year, marking the point at which "the nominal Christian churches were cast off from God's favor".[12]
1881: A revised end of the harvest[edit]
By 1881 Russell had found a biblical basis for extending the harvest to a new date, later that year.[5] He explained:
Coming to the spring of 1878 ... we naturally and not unreasonably expected some change of our condition, and all were more or less disappointed when nothing supernatural occurred. But our disappointment was brief, for we noticed that the Jewish church (and not the Gospel church) was the pattern of ours, and therefore we should not expect parallels to Pentecost or to anything which happened in the beginning of this church.[12]
Russell wrote that "the light upon our pathway still shines and is more and more glorious" and that since 1878 the light had glowed stronger. The timing of their translation to heaven seemed nearer, he wrote: "We know not the day or hour, but expect it during 1881, possibly near the autumn where the parallels show the favor to Zion complete and due to end, the door to the marriage to shut, and the high calling to be the bride of Christ, to cease."[12]
The second failure in 1881 precipitated a more serious crisis in the Bible Student ranks and for several years Russell's followers waited for the belated translation to occur.[5] Russell's chronological timetable had already identified 1914 as the ultimate end of the "time of trouble", and this preserved the commitment of followers who might have been discouraged by their failed expectations for 1881.[13] Yet many members found it inconceivable that their earthly departure might be delayed that long. Russell consoled members with the news that 1881 had still marked the time when "death became a blessing" in the sense that any saint who died would henceforth be instantaneously changed into a spirit being.[14] The revised view provided comfort for early believers who had held the view that the living faithful would never experience a physical death, and yet had seen other members in fact dying while they awaited their upward call. After 1881 physical death was defined as one of the ways in which some of the saints might undergo their translation.[5]
1914: The end of human rulership[edit]
Russell's Studies in the Scriptures series had explicitly identified October 1914 as the "full end of the times of the Gentiles" and consequently the "farthest limit" of human rulership.[15] It would bring the beginning of Christ's millennial reign[1] and all his followers expected the immediate "translation of the saints" to rule with the revealed Christ that year. Following the earth's tribulation and unrest, the Jews would return to God's favor, the "nominal Church" would have fallen, the final battle between Christ and Satan would have ended, the kingdoms of the world would be overthrown, and Christ would have gathered his saints into heaven, where they would reign with him, and when the millennium would begin.[1] The belief was unequivocal, based on his study of the Bible and the Great Pyramid, and satisfied only upon the establishment of an earthly paradise; Russell remarked that by altering the prophecy even one year would destroy the perfect symmetry of its biblical chronology.[16] In the second book of his Studies in the Scriptures series he described it as "an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished at the end of A.D. 1914".[17] The result, he wrote, was that "all present governments will be overthrown and dissolved",[17] along with the destruction of "what God calls Babylon, and what men call Christendom".[18] In an 1894 Watch Tower, responding to readers who questioned whether—because of recent political upheavals—the world could last until 1914, he wrote:
We see no reason for changing the figures—nor could we change them if we would, They are, we believe, God's dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of the trouble.[19]
As 1914 approached, excitement mounted over the expected "change" of anointed Christians.[5] Early that year some Bible Students, convinced the end of the world had arrived, began distributing their material belongings, abandoning their jobs and eagerly anticipating the future.[20] In May 1914—five months from the expected end—Russell warned followers against succumbing to doubt: …….
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Einstein On Quantum Mechanics
by Brokeback Watchtower inalbert einstein said "i like to think the moon is there even if i'm not looking at it".. i'm thinking the double slit experiments could have been a major factor in his attitude towards qm.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/double-slit_experiment.
"[t]he atoms or elementary particles themselves are not real; they form a world of potentialities or possibilities rather than one of things or facts.".
werner heisenberg.
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Einstein On Quantum Mechanics
by Brokeback Watchtower inalbert einstein said "i like to think the moon is there even if i'm not looking at it".. i'm thinking the double slit experiments could have been a major factor in his attitude towards qm.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/double-slit_experiment.
"[t]he atoms or elementary particles themselves are not real; they form a world of potentialities or possibilities rather than one of things or facts.".
werner heisenberg.
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It seems to me that the mystics are pointing us in the right general direction and basically every thing is just one thing and that thing is consciousness/God. Infinite wisdom fighting complete boredom with imagination compartmentalized to each imagined thing created inside pure awareness.
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Einstein On Quantum Mechanics
by Brokeback Watchtower inalbert einstein said "i like to think the moon is there even if i'm not looking at it".. i'm thinking the double slit experiments could have been a major factor in his attitude towards qm.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/double-slit_experiment.
"[t]he atoms or elementary particles themselves are not real; they form a world of potentialities or possibilities rather than one of things or facts.".
werner heisenberg.
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Albert Einstein said "I like to think the moon is there even if I'm not looking at it".
I'm thinking the Double slit experiments could have been a major factor in his attitude towards QM.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment
"[T]he atoms or elementary particles themselves are not real; they form a world of potentialities or possibilities rather than one of things or facts."
Werner Heisenberg
Einstein arguments against QM now have been proven wrong, the world is not real,, so we have now the many worlds interpetation, with all propabilities happening in a infinite universes.
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WATCHTOWER has posted a $40,000,000 bond !
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara inwatctower has posted a $40,000,000 bond following montana's upholding of the nunez v watchtower verdict of 2018. punitive damages have been upheld, and wt has purchased the bond from travelers insurance (35m+ interest)-montana sc will rule later this year on the appeal.. .
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Brokeback Watchtower
But anyone who has tried that in their personal life, they have found you can only go so far without without increasing income. I think many jws have been voting with their pocketbook and the WTS is starting to feel a bigger pinch from the decision not to charge jws for the publications and ended subscriptions.
So very true, the last big money grab must soured all feeling to contribute to such a abusive power. I'm sure this is causing a major downsizing of operations that are just a little too late to save it self from major financial losses of ill gotten gains(frauds). Such delusional faith that they really are God's earthly organization has steeped them in denial to act much too late to changes in direction to plot a safer course for the Watchtower behemoth to stay afloat for decades after the internet.
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The Mueller Report....will it affect Trump negatively?
by minimus inthey say it will be out any day soon.
do you think the report will do major damage to trump?.
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Brokeback Watchtower
It is a big deal. His wife covered up and threatened the women, then ran for President and started a whole "I was robbed, it was my turn" pity party. So it's still a big deal.
I guess if you look at it that way yeah it is. I of course was referring to ruling a country, and not living up to some type of morality that shouldn't color our estimation of: did he really do a bad job or good job ruling a country. To me it matters very little, if he bonked some nice looking young women that didn't mind him putting his cigar in her vagina and giving it a good twirl and then have a good smoke.
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The Incredible Shrinking Watchtower -- What's Up?
by Room 215 inwhat's up with this?
it seems that with the january study magazine it's been trimmed by by four pages.
have any of you commented on this?.
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Yeah they are definitely getting out of the printing business. A little late by a couple decades but lets face it nobody want to read their delusional bullshit even if you give it away free!
Now they just have this shitty cart work where the only people that take their literature are those that want to make the Watchtower go bankrupt the sooner the better so they grab a handful of the shit and to throw it in the garbage.
Just google the Watchtower and wham bam 99% percent bad JW.org cannot compete for first place in most browsers only the most die hard JW is having hard time even commenting at meetings the shit they print is is that horrible! Those WT meetings where they read the paragraph ask the question and repeat almost word for word the thoughts in the paragraph got to be very hard to attend and make comments these people are very depressed and are having a hard time living up to WT corporations laws and enforcements .
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The Mueller Report....will it affect Trump negatively?
by minimus inthey say it will be out any day soon.
do you think the report will do major damage to trump?.
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Simon I don't know? A lot career politicans have mistresses it should never really be a big deal as to how they are going to govern. every side would like to put their own spin on it. I just feel that using those things to judge one who carries the president may not be making a sound argument for something is wrong with his way of ruling.